Say ‘no’ to insect killing

Posted by Haje Jan Kamps

Dearie me, it seems as if we’ve got some truly pacifist photographers in our midst: My recent post on making a killing jar to easier be able to take macro photos of insects attracted 27 comments, largely along the lines of ’sure, you can kill them, but where’s the challenge in that?’ - with variations, of course.

David Harper felt particularly strongly about the topic, and went to the point of sending me a series of photos taken with a Canon SD-100, and argues that if he can take photographs like this with simple equipment without killing anything, then why should you have to? The man’s got a point…

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paco.jpgA bit of further research shows that the vast majority of photographers shun the idea of killing insects to get photos of them - in our poll, a full 51% said that snuffing the little beasties was ‘absolutely not’ okay - and another 22% argue that, well, you can kill them if you absolutely have to. The point is, however, that it turns out that you don’t actually have to kill anything in order to photograph it.

Searching through pages and pages of amazing macro photos on Flickr is a truly humbling experience for a budding macro photographer - there are literally thousands of downright amazing photographs.

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Interestingly, none of them feature insects that have been killed. And of course, if you feel like you can’t get the photos you need, there are many ways you can simply stun insects for a limited time - Check out the many insightful comments in this thread to learn more, and perhaps to get some inspiration, too!

Photos used in this post are all under creative commons licence, and found on Flickr. Big thanks to *micky*, Paco Espinoza and Tanakawho.

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Posted in: All articles, News, Opinions and Rants • 18 Jun '07

Insights, suggestions and comments

By Andrew Ferguson on June 18th, 2007 (permalink)

I’m not surprised to find out that most people are against the killing of insects for photos. Personally I said ‘only if absolutely necessary’, but that’s just because I’m a brutal murderer.

I can’t think of many situations where it would be necessary to actually kill the insect to get the shot though, so as faras I saw this was a non-issue until I saw your post.

By Paulo Rodrigues on June 18th, 2007 (permalink)

I have to say that I often find that children won’t stay still long enough to get a good photo, but your article has given me some food for thought.

By Brian Larter on June 18th, 2007 (permalink)

Don’t forget that already dead insects are fine as well. Not as much of a challenge as live ones but you can get some interesting results.

By Lari Kemilainen on June 19th, 2007 (permalink)

Actually it had never even occurred to me that it would be easier to shoot insects if they were dead. I use a manual focus telephoto lens and have many times thought of resorting to shooting stuffed birds instead of living, though.

The downside of shooting dead insects is that they are very difficult to arrange into a natural pose where they look like they’re doing something. Those little legs snap a little too easily, not to talk about trying to make a dead butterfly drink from a flower…

By Swarovski chick on June 19th, 2007 (permalink)

Great follow up to the last article on the killing jar a terrible idea. I’m not sure about the stun for a limited time though. Next time Im at the beach and see a hot body, think Ill throw a brick at them to stun them just long enough to keep them still to get my photo. maybe not.

By Allen on June 19th, 2007 (permalink)

Although I agree that you should not kill any living thing whenever possible, I will say that equating an insect’s life to that of a human’s is really really stretching and leaves your argument with little credibility. If you are going to make arguments like that then where do you draw the line of what is sensible?

By Mie on June 20th, 2007 (permalink)

“if he can take photographs like this with simple equipment without killing anything, then why should you have to? The man’s got a point…”

I think he misses the point completely. You van take photograph like that without killing anything BUT you can’t take any kind of insect photos without stunning or killing.

Of Course it is better not kill, the questien is what to do when you have to hurt insect some way to get photo you like. Others stunn or kill insects for that and others choose not to.

By Squidder on June 22nd, 2007 (permalink)

Me, personally - I’m in favor of not having to kill something, even if it is an insect, to take a picture of it, unless you’re trying to make a statement with a picture of a dead insect, or something…besides, small as they are, there are a lot of them and they play a role in the ecosystem, too. Stunning photo examples, by the way!

By Nimrod on June 24th, 2007 (permalink)

I think P&S owners have an advantage here.
For the dragonfly he used f/2.8 and still depth of field is great and he could use a very fast shutter speed (1/500).

Using a DSLR one would have to use smaller aperture and therefore shutter speed must be reduced.

By Juha Tyllinen on June 27th, 2007 (permalink)

I’m against using dead specimen for nature photography. That feels simply fake if the picture tries to portray them as alive. On the other hand, set specimen are still the best for identification purposes and those can’t be alive. That is more like product photography, though.

By Susheel on July 20th, 2007 (permalink)

ah! the alternative… thanks for this post too…

By kd spectre on September 29th, 2007 (permalink)

HELLO….McFly….anybody in there? GET REAL.
Although I’d never kill a dragonfly, honey bee, ladybug or Phidippus audax, excuse me, they’re BUGS! (OOOPS, Almost forgot butterflys and Praying Manti) Am totally amazed that the “have no life”, “bleeding heart”, liberal weenies have now taken on a new cause. Will we be picketing our local exterminator soon? “termites have rights too!” or mayhaps the ever popular, ” I bleed 4 mosquitos!” or maybe “Feed a roach, starve a fever.” While we’re at it, we could could start a new union for carpenter ants! Would it be OK to “Save a cricket….Kill a Mantis!” What about “Eat wood… 100 billion termites can’t be wrong!”
With all this hand-holdin’, sittin’ around the campfire singing kumbayah, and exchanging flowers,when is there time for photography?
BTW….Most of the large home buider stores stores have some nice fiberglass shower stalls that
can easily be converted into a quite serviceable makeshift “jar”.

When I think bugs should be killed:

When they are threatening the food we eat
When they are threatening us with possible illness and/or death
When they are threatening our children with bites and/or stings
When they are threatening our homes (includes landscaping)
When the bug needs identifying for scientific purposes and it simply can not be identified by good photos or site, which is rarely the case today with the internet. Just check out whatsthatbug.com. They gotten some really strange bug photos and have been able to identify most all of them.

I don’t think they need to be killed for bug collecting purposes. Having a collection of camera caught bugs would be much more satisfying. I own the domain name, Collectbugs.com and someday hope to make a site out of it where kids and adults interested in collecting bugs can open a free bug gallery and upload their own bug photos with commentary.

 

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