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		<title>By: laser guy</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-314469</link>
		<dc:creator>laser guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bad tube, plus a bad dpi setting or halftoning BS if on a ULS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bad tube, plus a bad dpi setting or halftoning BS if on a ULS.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-314085</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running a uls laser, and I was getting stuff like that when my laser tube went bad.

Either the laptop wasn&#039;t level, or the tube is going bad.

Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running a uls laser, and I was getting stuff like that when my laser tube went bad.</p>
<p>Either the laptop wasn&#8217;t level, or the tube is going bad.</p>
<p>Gary</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-314057</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great way to mod your Macbook Case!

It&#039;s pretty obvious whose it is now if it&#039;s ever stolen, which happens all to often these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great way to mod your Macbook Case!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty obvious whose it is now if it&#8217;s ever stolen, which happens all to often these days.</p>
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		<title>By: york laser</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-312379</link>
		<dc:creator>york laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photos is seem good, which engraver is this by?</description>
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		<title>By: york laser</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-312378</link>
		<dc:creator>york laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why? Have you considered getting the case replaced and redone? The black macbook isn’t that new, but if you’re planning on using it a lot it’s a consideration..

and what is 100% in agreement with Shane on this. I have 1.5 years experience running an Epilogue laser engraver. there are settings, Speed and power, that are used with a variety of Substrates. A second maybe even a third run may have corrected the the problem, but I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why? Have you considered getting the case replaced and redone? The black macbook isn’t that new, but if you’re planning on using it a lot it’s a consideration..</p>
<p>and what is 100% in agreement with Shane on this. I have 1.5 years experience running an Epilogue laser engraver. there are settings, Speed and power, that are used with a variety of Substrates. A second maybe even a third run may have corrected the the problem, but I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-309694</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cover the top part with tape or other to prevent the streaking. you might ask him to try it or other material. non flameable with rubber band to hold it and minimize the exposed area from getting streaked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cover the top part with tape or other to prevent the streaking. you might ask him to try it or other material. non flameable with rubber band to hold it and minimize the exposed area from getting streaked.</p>
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		<title>By: laser engravert</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-309036</link>
		<dc:creator>laser engravert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, I don’t want everyone to get the Idea that I’m blaming OP. Personally I would have told Op no, simply because I didn’t want to be the one responsible for ruining a 1000.00 + laptop. If pressed OP should have been warned that the results can’t and won’t be guaranteed.  ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I don’t want everyone to get the Idea that I’m blaming OP. Personally I would have told Op no, simply because I didn’t want to be the one responsible for ruining a 1000.00 + laptop. If pressed OP should have been warned that the results can’t and won’t be guaranteed.  ???</p>
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		<title>By: Gunner21</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-308789</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunner21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% in agreement with Shane on this. I have 1.5 years experience running an Epilogue laser engraver. there are settings, Speed and power, that are used with a variety of Substrates. A second maybe even a third run may have corrected the the problem, but I doubt it.

I also have to wonder if the top of the laptop was completely flat. The results on even a slightly curved surface will give you engraving at various depths.

Now, I don&#039;t want everyone to get the Idea that I&#039;m blaming OP. Personally I would have told Op no, simply because I didn&#039;t want to be the one responsible for ruining a 1000.00 + laptop. If pressed OP should have been warned that the results can&#039;t and won&#039;t be guaranteed.

Folks there is only so much you can do with a laser engraver. We even hemmed and hawed at doing glass because the results were unpredictable and that substrate was on the list. Unlike laptops... I don&#039;t remember ever seeing laptops on the list. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% in agreement with Shane on this. I have 1.5 years experience running an Epilogue laser engraver. there are settings, Speed and power, that are used with a variety of Substrates. A second maybe even a third run may have corrected the the problem, but I doubt it.</p>
<p>I also have to wonder if the top of the laptop was completely flat. The results on even a slightly curved surface will give you engraving at various depths.</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t want everyone to get the Idea that I&#8217;m blaming OP. Personally I would have told Op no, simply because I didn&#8217;t want to be the one responsible for ruining a 1000.00 + laptop. If pressed OP should have been warned that the results can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t be guaranteed.</p>
<p>Folks there is only so much you can do with a laser engraver. We even hemmed and hawed at doing glass because the results were unpredictable and that substrate was on the list. Unlike laptops&#8230; I don&#8217;t remember ever seeing laptops on the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-308786</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!

I noticed you linked to my engraving :) I was commenting on the consumerist post about this and then noticed my flickr stats jump up for some reason...now I know why!

Anyway, it must be said after the first pass, half of my design pretty invisible. The guys that did it didn&#039;t move the macbook and basically just went back and did a second pass over that half. They would have done more to fix the one thin line that sort of got messed up, but it might have affected the rest so it stayed. Not sure what happened in your case (I&#039;m no expert at this) but I&#039;m sorry to hear about it :( I sort of dig the results but I guess it would have been better without the streaking.

Have you considered getting the case replaced and redone? The black macbook isn&#039;t that new, but if you&#039;re planning on using it a lot it&#039;s a consideration..

Lastly, once you engrave, you can&#039;t live without it. I just ordered a new MBP for myself and I&#039;m already asking around for quotes for engraving that ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!</p>
<p>I noticed you linked to my engraving :) I was commenting on the consumerist post about this and then noticed my flickr stats jump up for some reason&#8230;now I know why!</p>
<p>Anyway, it must be said after the first pass, half of my design pretty invisible. The guys that did it didn&#8217;t move the macbook and basically just went back and did a second pass over that half. They would have done more to fix the one thin line that sort of got messed up, but it might have affected the rest so it stayed. Not sure what happened in your case (I&#8217;m no expert at this) but I&#8217;m sorry to hear about it :( I sort of dig the results but I guess it would have been better without the streaking.</p>
<p>Have you considered getting the case replaced and redone? The black macbook isn&#8217;t that new, but if you&#8217;re planning on using it a lot it&#8217;s a consideration..</p>
<p>Lastly, once you engrave, you can&#8217;t live without it. I just ordered a new MBP for myself and I&#8217;m already asking around for quotes for engraving that ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-308783</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used to have this problem all the time w/ our laser cutter.  The problem is that the platform that your laptop was resting on was not perfectly level, (or else the arms that the lens moves on were not level.)  Since it wasn&#039;t level, part of the laptop was closer to the lens than other parts, which meant that in some areas the laser spot was in focus and in the other areas the spot was out of focus.

In some cases you actually want the spot to be out of focus since it gives a slightly blurrier engraving (which can be useful on materials that are melting rather than ablating.)  But having it be non-uniform is a real killer.

If you&#039;re feeling super crazy brave you could try using a mild solvent to smooth out the grooves, but really, that&#039;s just crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to have this problem all the time w/ our laser cutter.  The problem is that the platform that your laptop was resting on was not perfectly level, (or else the arms that the lens moves on were not level.)  Since it wasn&#8217;t level, part of the laptop was closer to the lens than other parts, which meant that in some areas the laser spot was in focus and in the other areas the spot was out of focus.</p>
<p>In some cases you actually want the spot to be out of focus since it gives a slightly blurrier engraving (which can be useful on materials that are melting rather than ablating.)  But having it be non-uniform is a real killer.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re feeling super crazy brave you could try using a mild solvent to smooth out the grooves, but really, that&#8217;s just crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-308781</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mention the origin being at the bottom left corner. Perhaps the laser can only move in one direction away from the origin, but if it could move left and right from the origin then setting the origin at the middle bottom of the laptop you would have had the white parts happening at both edges (like inverse of vignette) and only half as badly.

This sort of approach may be part of the reason why other people seem to have not had problems, perhaps sonne&#039;s system isn&#039;t set up for large areas, but other systems are, maybe even with lasers that can shift to do multiple origins? Just guessing here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention the origin being at the bottom left corner. Perhaps the laser can only move in one direction away from the origin, but if it could move left and right from the origin then setting the origin at the middle bottom of the laptop you would have had the white parts happening at both edges (like inverse of vignette) and only half as badly.</p>
<p>This sort of approach may be part of the reason why other people seem to have not had problems, perhaps sonne&#8217;s system isn&#8217;t set up for large areas, but other systems are, maybe even with lasers that can shift to do multiple origins? Just guessing here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-308772</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is BS. I&#039;ve operated a laser engraving business for the last two years, and can tell you exactly what happened.

The beam has less area to travel in one corner than the other, hence you will get a slightly more powerful beam and deeper engraving on one side than the other. BUT - it is usually so slight that you would never, ever notice. I&#039;ve done full 24x18 pieces that show no difference at all. The only time I have heard of an engraving showing that much difference is when the tube is going out.

Laser engraving is all about guessing. You have a speed setting and a power setting. To get a good engraving, you need to take into account the material you are engraving on, the speed of the head, and the power of the beam. When you match everything up with the correct settings, you get a successful engrave.

Here is my best guess on what happened. He has too low of a power setting (or he&#039;s running it too fast), so you werent getting a deep enough engraving to totally engrave off the anodizing. That is why you get that quasi-engraved look in the one corner. Second issue - I&#039;d bet his laser tube is going bad, hence there is a noticeable difference in power that opposite corner. This could also be the contributing factor in why the rest of the engraving didnt go deep enough.

LASTLY -
If you are very, very careful and have a very, very good attention to detail, he can successfully line it back up for a second engraving. This should resolve the not-deep-enough issue, and get you a consistent white engraving across the entire design. If he would like some tips on how to do that, have him email me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is BS. I&#8217;ve operated a laser engraving business for the last two years, and can tell you exactly what happened.</p>
<p>The beam has less area to travel in one corner than the other, hence you will get a slightly more powerful beam and deeper engraving on one side than the other. BUT &#8211; it is usually so slight that you would never, ever notice. I&#8217;ve done full 24&#215;18 pieces that show no difference at all. The only time I have heard of an engraving showing that much difference is when the tube is going out.</p>
<p>Laser engraving is all about guessing. You have a speed setting and a power setting. To get a good engraving, you need to take into account the material you are engraving on, the speed of the head, and the power of the beam. When you match everything up with the correct settings, you get a successful engrave.</p>
<p>Here is my best guess on what happened. He has too low of a power setting (or he&#8217;s running it too fast), so you werent getting a deep enough engraving to totally engrave off the anodizing. That is why you get that quasi-engraved look in the one corner. Second issue &#8211; I&#8217;d bet his laser tube is going bad, hence there is a noticeable difference in power that opposite corner. This could also be the contributing factor in why the rest of the engraving didnt go deep enough.</p>
<p>LASTLY -<br />
If you are very, very careful and have a very, very good attention to detail, he can successfully line it back up for a second engraving. This should resolve the not-deep-enough issue, and get you a consistent white engraving across the entire design. If he would like some tips on how to do that, have him email me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
		<link>http://photocritic.org/laptop-laser-engraving/#comment-308755</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so cool!! 

My aluminum Macbook and I, are very jealous right now :)</description>
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<p>My aluminum Macbook and I, are very jealous right now :)</p>
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